Steven: Could you talk
a little bit about how AZT and most currently, protease
inhibitors, destroy the bone marrow leading to the loss
of bone marrow cells and eventually to the many illnesses
attributed to the HIV virus and AIDS?
Dr. Al-Bayati: AIDS patients have been
treated with antiviral medications based on the assumption
that HIV is the cause of AIDS. This approach has been
a failure and it is not based on sound medical facts.
It is killing people and must be stopped immediately.
In my answer to Q5, I stated that a total
of 2,482 patients participated in four major AZT clinical
trials conducted in USA between 1986 to 1992. Only 22%
were HIV-positive prior to their treatment with AZT and
the rest of the subjects were HIV-negative (62%) and
untested (16%). This information indicates that the designs
and the conclusions of these studies are invalid.
Protease inhibitors usually cause severe
damage in kidney, liver, and other organs.
The severity of the damage depends upon the amount of the drugs taken and
the duration of use. Some studies show that the CD4+ T cell counts were increased
after treatment with AZT and/or protease inhibitors. This information was
interpreted as a good response to the medications.
On the contrary, the elevation of T cells
is not a good response in these conditions, but rather,
it indicates severe tissue damage and infection because
elevation of CD4+ T cells counts also occur due to inflammation
in tissues. This explains the injury and death of the
patients following treatment with these drugs. For example,
the CD4+ T cell counts were increased following the treatment
of HIV negative nurses with AZT, who took AZT as a prophylactic.
They developed severe symptoms following
3 weeks of treatment with AZT (Get All The Facts: HIV
does not cause AIDS, Table 24). In addition to the failure
of the antiviral drugs, AIDS patients suffering from
immune deficiency are also treated with glucocorticoids.
This practice is not supported by any known mechanism
The antiviral medications and the glucocorticoids
not only fail to cure AIDS, but they cause severe damage
to sick people with AIDS. Prescribing these medications
to AIDS patient is just like putting gasoline on a fire.
The proponents of the HIV hypothesis failed to anticipate
this disaster and they claimed that AZT prolonged lives.
Steven: It is astonishing
when you explain how AZT works and when one realizes
that this is the drug of choice for pregnant women who
test HIV+ and their babies whether they test positive
or not. At the same time, AZT is also the drug of choice
that is being pushed upon malnourished people in South
Africa. How can this important information make a difference
within these two groups of people, and have you been
contributing any of this information to President Thabo
Mbeki and/or the United States government? If so, what
has been their response?
Dr. Al-Bayati: As I stated in my answers
to the previous questions, the designs and the conclusions
of the AZT clinical trials are not valid. AZT is very
toxic to bone marrow and tissues with high cell division
rates such as embryonic tissue. Treatment of pregnant
women with AZT will definitely cause very serous damage
to the embryo and fetus.
The cause of AIDS in infant and children
in the industrialized countries are the use of cocaine,
heroin, and alcohol by mothers during their pregnancy.
The use of cocaine during pregnancy was usually associated
with a high prevalence of premature births and low birth
weights. Drug exposed infants usually had immature lung
profiles and other serious health problems.
These health problems are usually treated
with glucocorticoids. As of January 1, 1997, the number
of infants and children in USA diagnosed with AIDS was
6,891. Ninety percent of these cases had mothers who
were drug users.
In Africa, the cause of AIDS in infants
and children is malnutrition. The study of Fawzi et al.
[Fawzi et al., The Lancet 351:1447-1482, 1998] clearly
demonstrated that HIV is a harmless virus and the impairment
of the immune system in a mother (HIV-positive) who suffers
from malnutrition can be reversed by feeding the mother
This measure also improved the outcome
of pregnancy. For example, in Tanzania, 1,075 HIV-infected
pregnant women between 12 and 27 weeks' gestation received
vitamin A (n=269), multivitamins excluding vitamin A
(n=269), multivitamins including vitamin A (n=270), or
a placebo (n=267). In this study, multinutrition supplementation
decreased the risk of low birth weight (<2500 g) by
44%, severe preterm birth (<34 weeks of gestation)
by 39%, and small size for gestational age at birth by
During pregnancy, all T-cells subsets
(CD4+, CD8+, and CD3+) increased in all groups between
baseline (mean 18 week's gestation weeks' gestation and
6 weeks postpartum). There was a significantly larger
increase in the CD4+ T cell counts and percentage of
CD4+ T cells among women assigned multivitamins. The
mean increases between baseline and 6 weeks postpartum
were 167 cells/µL and 112 cells/µL among women on multivitamins
and those on no vitamins, respectively.
The result of the large study in Tanzania
presented above clearly shows that HIV is a harmless
virus and that the depression of the immune system in
pregnant women suffering from malnutrition can be reversed
by nutrition. This treatment also improved the outcome
It is very sad and frustrating to know
that the CDC and the AIDS establishment are giving AZT
to pregnant women even with studies that show the depression
in the immune system can be reversed by nutrition. I
hope that our government will pay attention to the medical
evidence presented in my book and my articles that show
HIV is not the cause of AIDS, and that AZT and protease
inhibitors are killing people. I hope that our government
will take the proper actions soon to end the suffering
of people who are unnecessarily ingesting these toxic
Steven: You mention a
powerful antioxidant, Alpha Lipoic Acid in your report.
What is this chemical and how can it help to rebuild
one's immune system that has been destroyed by AZT, protease
inhibitors and Prednisone? What other antioxidants or
products have you found in your research that may work
to help rebuild damaged cells,
bone marrow and immune systems?
Dr. Al-Bayati: Alpha
lipoic Acid (ALA) is a very powerful antioxidant that
has been used to prevent injuries caused by chemicals
in human and animal studies. It has also been given to
diabetic patients for the last two decades to prevent
tissue damage, has been used in Europe to reverse peripheral
neuropathy in diabetic patients, and has been shown to
be effective and safe in several clinical trials.
This drug is very effective in preventing
and reversing injuries resulting from metabolic changes
and/or exposure to chemicals that induce lipid peroxidation.
It is sold without prescription and has no side effects
at the therapeutic doses (Up to 600 mg per day) for a
period of 3 months or more in most people.
In Chapter 14 of my book, I presented
a brief description of the results of nine studies to
show the efficacy and safety of Alpha
lipoic acid. Vitamins
E, C and trace elements
such as zinc and selenium are also very important
in the healing process of
damage caused by metabolic changes and/or the exposure
to chemicals such as AZT and other medications.
Steven: Do you have any
trial studies going on? What are they and how can someone
become involved with them?
Dr. Al-Bayati: Our clinical study is posted on http://www.aliveandwell.org/.
We have also started to evaluate cases. For more details
please check the site below. I do differential diagnosis
to identify the cause(s) of illness and I send my report
to the physician(s). My report usually contains a description
of the cause(s) of the problem and my recommendations
for clinical tests and treatment.
I have evaluated the case histories and
the medical records of many HIV-positive AIDS cases and
I have found that the causes of illness in these people
are the use of the antiviral medications and the glucocorticoid
For example, I evaluated the medical
record of an HIV-positive individual who is suffering
from thrombocytopenia with low CD4+ T cell count. In
the last 10 years, this individual has been treated with
24 prescription medications and 12 of these medications
cause thrombocytopenia, five drugs cause damage in the
immune system. However, this individual has been treated
with AZT and glucocorticoids that cause thrombocytopenia
and AIDS on the assumption that HIV is the cause of these
health problems in this individual.
I receive many letters, emails and telephone
calls per month from people who are desperate, and in
need answers and help. I usually spend about 20 hours
per case to evaluate the medical records and case history
of patients who are suffering from AIDS.
As I mentioned earlier, most of these
patients do not have the money and unfortunately, we
don't have any funding to handle the load. Currently,
there is no money allowed or given by the United States
Government to any AIDS project not dealing with the HIV
as the cause of AIDS. AIDS and HIV are treated by our
government as political issues, not as health issues
and this policy is, unfortunately, causing human tragedy
We have submitted our proposal to private
sources. We are hoping to get funding to save people's
lives and to provide more medical evidence showing that
the depression in the immune system, in HIV-positive
AIDS patients, is reversible without the use of toxic
antiviral medications as I presented in many examples
above, in my book and articles.
Steven: Although your
ideas are much easier to comprehend and seem more logical
compared to the mainstream ideas of what AIDS is, what
has the reaction been from your comrades and fellow physicians?
Do you work with or see a growing number of physicians
in the San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego area or
even nationwide or internationally, who share your concerns
Dr. Al-Bayati: I spent about two years
to evaluate the causes and pathology of AIDS worldwide
prior to releasing my findings to the public. In my book,
I identified the causes of AIDS and described the symptoms
and pathology of AIDS in all risk groups. My book is
divided into fifteen chapters.
There is a specific chapter designated
for each risk group and other chapters to explain the
causes and pathology of the AIDS-defining illnesses.
For example, chapter 10 contains the description of the
causes of AIDS in infants and children, while chapter
11 describes the cause of AIDS in hemophiliacs. The entire
index is posted on http://www.toxi-health.com/.
I wrote this book as a medical book so
physicians can use it to diagnose cases of AIDS accurately
and order proper clinical tests to treat the patient
with AIDS successfully. It is very easy to follow and
My conclusion that HIV is not the cause
of AIDS is based on published medical evidence and not
on hypothesis; therefore, any physician or scientist
who reads and examines the information in my book will
come to the same conclusion.
For example, Professor Otto G. Raabe
is a toxicologist from the University of California Davis
and has read my book twice, evaluated the medical evidence
carefully and came to the conclusion that HIV is not
the cause of AIDS. He wrote the foreword for my book,
which is posted on http://www.toxi-health.com/.
Below is one paragraph of his report.
"Dr. Al-Bayati's detailed evaluation
of the world-wide AIDS epidemic approaches the literature
head-on and lets the chips fall where they may. Because
of his objective use of differential diagnosis and his
sensitivity and understanding of both pathological and
toxicological factors, he is able to convincingly demonstrate
that the convergence of several factors other than HIV
represent the true causes of AIDS. This book deserves
careful attention, especially from physicians who must
decide the course of medical treatment for their various
Furthermore, Professor Juan Jose Flores,
MD, PhD, Dr. Lisa M. Hosbein, MD, FACOG, and other physicians
and scientists, who have read my book, have come to the
same conclusion that the HIV is not the cause of AIDS.
In addition, individuals who have read my book, reach
the same conclusion.
There are many articles written about
my findings and I have been on many radio and TV shows.
In the last 20 months, I have not received any disagreement
from any physician or a scientist about my findings.
Some of these articles and our clinical studies are posted
on the internet.
Physicians usually depend upon the recommendations
from our government and the pharmaceutical companies
about the treatment of AIDS patients and the usage of
medications. Most of the time they have no way of knowing
nor understanding the implications involving these recommendations
or whether they are valid or not.
I informed the US government and many
State governments in August of 1999 and requested that
my findings to be evaluated, unfortunately, no action
has been taken yet. It is the responsibility of our government
to take the right step by evaluating the evidence and
to protect the public from taking highly toxic drugs
such as AZT and other antiviral drugs, which are currently
used to treat patients with AIDS.