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Steven: You really strip
away the intricate layers of Anthony Fauci's report, "Clinical
Categories of HIV infection" and "Harrison's Principle
of Internal Medicine" to reveal some pretty astonishing
facts that were either covered up, left out or pushed
aside. Of all the information you uncovered, what would
be the most important for our readers to know about when
it comes to A. Fauci et al. work?
Dr. Al-Bayati: As I stated earlier in Q1,
prior to October of 1997, I believed that HIV was the
cause of AIDS, as has been reported by the CDC and the
AIDS establishment. When I found that the treatment of
a patient with prednisone (60 mg per day for 10 week)
and Azathioprine for lung fibrosis could cause AIDS and
that the damage to the immune system is reversible upon
termination of this treatment, I became very interested
in the issue of AIDS.
I pursued my plan to evaluate the medical
literature to find out if there were other cases who
developed AIDS as result of treatment with immunosuppressant
medications, and to evaluated the link between HIV and
My research of the various literature
lead me to the vast numbers of publications by Anthony
Fauci that dealt with the effects of glucocorticoids
on the functions of the immune system. Dr. Fauci has
been studying the effects of glucocorticoids and other
immunosuppressant medications on the function of B cells
and T cells since the 1970s.
I was very surprised to find that Fauci
described the symptoms of AIDS in 1976 in people using
high doses of corticosteroids over a period of a few
months, as stated below, and that there are more than
40 medical conditions in risk groups such as pulmonary
fibrosis, thrombocytopenia, peripherial neuropathy, etc
that have been treated with high doses of glucocorticoids
and other immunosuppressant medications for long time.
A. Fauci has not considered these factors at all when
stating that HIV is the cause of AIDS.
For example, Fauci et al., 1976 stated
that, "we have reviewed many aspects of the host defenses
that are altered by corticosteroids, and the combined
effects of these changes must be considered in trying
to understand the relation between corticosteroids and
Since the defect with corticosteroids
is broad, it is not surprising that many types of infections
seem to occur more often in patients treated with corticosteroids.
Of the bacterial infections, staphylocococcal and Gram-negative
infections, as well as tuberculosis and listeriosis infections,
probably occur most often.
Certain types of viral, fungal, and parasitic
infections also occur often. Patients with lupus erythematosus,
rheumatoid arthritis, and renal transplants have more
infection with steroid administration. Study of bronchial
aerosols showed that with higher doses of steroid in
the aerosol, Candida infections of the larynx and pharynx
occurred more often" [Annals of Internal Medicine 84:
Furthermore, I reviewed Fauci's book
entitled "Principles of Internal Medicine" published
by McGraw-Hill in 1998, 14th edition. This book contains
detailed descriptions of the impact of illicit drugs,
glucocorticoids, and malnutrition on health and the functions
of the immune system, but yet Fauci has not considered
any of the information presented in his book when dealing
with the AIDS issue.
For example, the opportunistic diseases
described on page 1,792 in Fauci's book under the name
of Clinical Categories of HIV infection, are the same
opportunistic diseases that are described in the same
book in organ transplant patients treated with high doses
of immunosuppressive medications. It is very difficult
for me to imagine that A. Fauci, the Director of the
AIDS program at the NIH, spent billions of dollars to
find a cure for AIDS, yet the true answers are presented
in his publications.
Fauci and his colleagues conducted a
study in 1995 and found that the lymph nodes of some
patients infected with HIV had hyperplasia (It has more
cells then normal). This observation contradicts the
HIV-hypothesis that HIV kills infected cells [J. Immunol
154 (10): 5555-66, 1995].
Also in this study, some lymph nodes
showed atrophy and necrosis in T cells and B cells. These
changes were independent of the viral load or the duration
of the infection. Hence, they did not question the HIV-hypothesis
but, rather, they modified the hypothesis to fit their
Briefly, they examined 29 HIV positive
lymph nodes and found twelve of these lymph nodes with
follicular hyperplasia and extensive germinal centers,
five with follicular hyperplasia mixed with follicular
involution, twelve lymph nodes with a mixture of follicular
involution and lymphocyte depletion, and five lymph nodes
with lymphocyte depletion.
They stated that, "apoptosis was not
restricted only to CD4+ T cells; both B cells and CD8+
T cells were found to undergo apoptosis. They stated
that the increased intensity of the apoptotic phenomenon
in HIV infection is caused by the general state of immune
activation, and is independent of the progression of
HIV disease and the levels of viral load".
In 1992, scientists and physicians reported
to the CDC cases with AIDS and/or low CD4+ T cells, yet
these cases were HIV-negative. However, Fauci and the
CDC did not investigate these cases. Instead they explained
the problem by giving a new name for this disease: "Idiopathic
CD4+ T cells lymphocytopenia (ICL)".
Fauci stated in his book, cited above
on page 1845, that the immunologic abnormalities in ICL
are somewhat different from those of HIV infection. ICL
patients often have decreases in CD8+ T cells and in
B cells. However, on page 1,809-11 of the same book,
Fauci stated that during the late stage of HIV infection,
there is a significant reduction in the numbers of CD8+
T cells and the absolute number of circulating B cells
may be depressed in primary infection.
In addition, Fauci's approach for solving
the AIDS crisis is by defining conditions as they show
up. The classic definition is the "long-term nonprogressors" term
applied to people previously infected with HIV approximately
10 years or more, who have not yet showed any health
The number of these people as of January
1, 1997 was about 28,690. It only took one clinical case
for me to see that the HIV-hypothesis has serious flaws
and is incorrect. Yet A. Fauci, with billions dollars
to spend, ignores thousands of cases (HIV-positive and
HIV-negative) that obviously demonstrated the inconsistencies
of the HIV hypothesis.
In 1981, the symptoms of patients diagnosed
with AIDS are purely symptoms of chronic glucocorticoids
use. Now the symptoms of patients with AIDS include bone
marrow damage and damages of many organs (liver, kidneys,
etc) as a result of the use of a wide range of powerful
antiviral drugs and more steroids.
In addition, Fauci and the CDC made the
picture of AIDS even more complicated by adding cervical
dysplasia and cervical cancer in 1993 to the cumulative
list of AIDS-defining illnesses. These illnesses are
also occurring in women with normal immune system functions,
which has nothing to do with the hypothesis that HIV
kills T cells. By taking this arbitrary step, AIDS has
become a disease affecting the whole community; not only
homosexuals and drug using men. This action has increased
the fear in the community and also has increased the
funding to the NIH as well as the sale of antiviral drugs.
The medical evidence presented in my
book, along with the information presented in the Fauci's
publications, indicate that A. Fauci, the Director of
the AIDS program, and the CDC overlooked essential medical
evidence, which indicates that HIV is not the cause of
AIDS, antiviral medications do not work, and that drugs
and malnutrition play important parts in the pathogenesis
Furthermore, they have been changing
their hypothesis and the stated incubation period for
HIV, to make them fit new findings. AIDS in 1989 was
much more complicated than the AIDS in 1984, prior to
the approval of AZT. AIDS in 2001 has become more complicated
than the AIDS in 1989, prior to the approval of steroid
and protease inhibitors in the treatment of AIDS.
As I stated earlier, treating an AIDS
patient with corticosteroids and AZT is just like putting gasoline on a fire.
AZT kills the stem cells in bone marrow
that produce T cells and the glucocorticoids inhibit
the functions of T cells; therefore, reducing their numbers
in both thymus and blood circulation.
Today, we have about 2,000 active ingredients
in our prescription and nonprescription drugs and thousands
of chemicals in use in our workplace. Yet, toxicology
is excluded from our health care industry. Physicians
need to consult with toxicologists who have the expertise
and the resources to evaluate toxic effects of chemicals
used in workplace and side effects of medications.
This approach can save lives and resources.
This problem needs to be addressed urgently by our health
care industry, among scientists, and in our government.
We need to devote resources to solve current problems
and not to create more problems.
The war on AIDS
is a classic example of mismanagement of great resources.
Imagine if a toxicologist and a pathologist,
with expertise in differential diagnosis, had been consulted
about the few cases of AIDS that appeared in 1981, how
many lives and billion of dollars would have been saved!
must learn from this tragic and expensive lesson because
we cannot afford to continue ignoring or repeating it.
Steven: How can people,
who are interested in your book or have further questions,
Dr. Al-Bayati: They can check my website (http://www.toxi-health.com/).
My phone number is (707) 678-4484. Fax number is (707)
678-8505. My email: email@example.com My
company address: Toxi-health International, 150 Bloom
Dr., Dixon, CA 95620
Steven: Dr. Al-Bayati,
I would like to thank you for your time and commitment
to this article and more important to this issue of what
AIDS is and is not. It has been truly wonderful working
with you and I wish you all the success.
Dr. Al-Bayati: Thank you very much for
asking me to do this very important interview. I hope
that other reporters will take the same courageous action
that you have taken to find the truth about what causes
AIDS and by providing this vital information to the public.
Your action certainly will save lives and vital resources.
God bless you!
AidsMyth.com June 2001
Full report at http://www.toxi-health.com/hiv-art.doc